Infinix creates a "3D Vapor Cloud Chamber", which improves on conventional designs by 3°C - comments

2022-07-22 21:10:02 By : Mr. Jason Fang

Cat, 9 hours agoThere is water inside heatpipes used for cooling electronics. Anyone who says otherwise doesn&... more I love how confident you are at being incorrect. Yes, water CAN be used. But not for smartphones (last time I checked, we are talking about smartphone application of heatpipe/vapor chamber here) because it's boiling point of 100°C makes it rather useless here. That's where my mention of "fine tuned for application" in my post comes in. The liquid used inside heatpipes defines the temperature range you're expected to have cooled element at. For use in smartphones you need boiling point far below boiling point of water because chipsets never run that hot. You can also have heatpipes that have mercury inside that has a boiling point of 350°C. Which is meant for applications of heatpipes where heat you're trying to pull away is at around that temperature. Using such heatpipe on smartphone or even desktop PC processor would be incredibly infefficient if not straight up non functional. Water has a boiling point of around 100°C at atmospheric pressure. Tell me, what smartphone chipset heats up anywhere close to that? You can't have an effective heatpipe system if liquid inside doesn't evaporate. Ethanol on the other hand has a boiling point of 78°C. Factoring in possibility of vacuum inside and the boiling point further shifts. It's also funny how no one noticed in JRE's teardown videos where he cuts into vapor chamber and points his blade at dropplets inside which quickly evaporate and disappear (in matter of seconds). Water doesn't do that such short time. Ethanol however does. I also don't know why they'd complicate things by using vacuum and water to achieve what you can in atmospheric pressure using ethanol. It's easier to manufacture and less likely to leak if it's at atmospheric pressure and just appropriate liquid used inside.

There is water inside heatpipes used for cooling electronics. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know jack.

Anonymous, 21 Jul 2022 iphone expert who dont know nothing about tech Bwuahahahahahahaahahahaahahaha. It's astounding what kind of derps are rolling around this place accusing others of "not knowing tech" and seriously believing there is WATER inside heatpipes and vapor chambers. You can't make this s**t up lol

we all love a company who tries to be relevant

they didn't even use proper flagship chip like sd8gen1 or d9000 yet they are talking new vapor chamber? must be a gimmick for their phone fans

Remove all Crap improve 40 degrees

SShock, 21 Jul 2022Vapor chambers and heatpipes don't have water inside. They need something that evaporates... more iphone expert who dont know nothing about tech

CompactPhones5ever, 21 Jul 2022 3°C improvement in controlled lab tests, also known as 0,3°C improvement in real life. I partly agree with you, the thing is phones are so much controlled and everything closely integrated together that it could be possible to have the same results in lab tests in real life. It is not the case for a computer for example, where manufacturers can't make up with the infinite number of combinations of different vendor parts. For phones they seal everything and know exactly what is inside, so they can more easily emulate what is in the lab.

3°C improvement in controlled lab tests, also known as 0,3°C improvement in real life.

Hopefully it won't contribute to the phone's thickness

you have to suffer, 21 Jul 2022this is useless when it comes to infinix spamming phones with helio chipsets. which it doesnt ... more not sure if joke or you dont understand vapour chambers. they're sealed, so it can't dry because the water/vapour is always inside. the water evaporates and condenses in a cycle that moves heat away from the hot components towards cooler areas which eventually releases heat to the outside of the phone

SShock, 21 Jul 2022Vapor chambers and heatpipes don't have water inside. They need something that evaporates... more Electronic cooling water pipes contain water. Water doesn't need to boil to turn into a gas. It only needs to evaporate which it can do easily due to the high surface area of the wicking layers inside.

you have to suffer, 21 Jul 2022this is useless when it comes to infinix spamming phones with helio chipsets. which it doesnt ... more The chamber is a closed environment. The liquid inside can't dry up. It can evaporate and condense when heated or cooled.

Anonymous , 21 Jul 2022If they do 3d vcc with the snapdragon chips it will be amazing but as you know they love their... more They dont even use good mtk chip, only 1 phone has D900 the rest has Ancient cortex A76 including their flagship. And what heat is cortex X series, every soc which use those cores will heat including Tensor, Exynos 2100/2200, Dimensity 9000 etc.

Not sure if it helps but looks definitely ugly.

Vapor chambers and heatpipes don't have water inside. They need something that evaporates much quicker than water, because bioling point of 100°C is just too high for the system to work efficiently. It depends on application and target temperature range. They fine tune heatpipes/vapor chambers according to application. It's why you can overburden heatpipes by heating them up too much, causing all the liquid inside to evaporate into gas form and it never condenses back into liquid form.

If they do 3d vcc with the snapdragon chips it will be amazing but as you know they love their Helio chips there is a 0.01% chance they use snapdragon chips( I am not telling that Helio chips are bad but it's useless because they don't heat up much as the snapdragon chips do)

this is useless when it comes to infinix spamming phones with helio chipsets. which it doesnt need to throttle just for gaming. anyway, if the water dries inside the cooler, can it refill by end user?

Better be in note 12 pro 4g

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